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Furious with the Archers!

August 19th, 2012 (10:48 am)

feeling: aggravated

It’s hot. 28 degrees today, 34 yesterday and so I’m in a ranty mood. (More especially as as soon as I arrived at Dad’s I got pounced on by the owners of the house next door who are trying to sell the bungalow who accused Dad of throwing teabags up against the windows there. There’s no point trying to have that conversation with Dad, whether it’s true or not.


We have an established gay couple in the show, but no lesbians that I can recall – it’s a comfortable gay relationship, accepted by simply everyone and they are married and until recently very happily settled.

However, something came out of left field this week, that has made me wave my Bisexual button with a vengeance. Harry has been in the show a while, and hasn’t really had any role to play other than getting a job as a milkman and competing for all the local girls with his flatmate. He has been shown as positively aggressively heterosexual, and even followed one of the Polish temporary workers back to Poland before coming home empty handed.

This week, he’d gone on holiday with Fallon (the young woman whose mother owns the pub, keep up do) and Jazzer and today I found out he never made it back because he’d met up with an old flame and they have trotted off into the sunset. And the old flame was a man.

It was SO FUCKING LAME. And hugely git-like on the behalf of the writers, because they probably thought “oh, how can we write Harry out of the show and give him an interesting end, as his life in Ambridge has been so tedious up to now?” and so they gave us this.. duhn duhn duhn…. disappearance to spice it all up and to give the residents of Ambridge something to talk about for another five minutes. They seem to have gone all coy in their language recently as the dialogue was much like this:

“You mean to say that…”


“Well, you know… he’s…”

“Yes, exactly.”

“But he was all over that Polish girl!”

The conversation then goes on to say how the “Polish girl” had never been right for him and how lovely it was he had found his true love.

Not a MENTION of his obvious bisexuality. Once again the red-headed stepchild of the GL(B)T “family” (although it is very like a family, the Simpsons, the Borgias, the Corleones…) is invisible and sitting in a corner Not Being Named. It was a cop-out and although there was a massive opportunity to raise the awareness of bisexuality, the writers just went with “oh, he was gay all along.”


Pah, I say. And double Pah.

And also: Speak its Name is running their interview spot again, thanks to the lovely Elin Gregory who is mirroring her Comfy Chair posts there. If you want a spot, slip either me or Elin an email. however, authors, I would be grateful if you were 1. at least a little familiar with the blog before applying and 2. Don’t start preaching to me me on the policy of the site and saying how limiting it is. There are plenty of other places that do interviews, but at Speak Its Name we do gay historicals. That’s all.


Posted by: sandra_lindsey (sandra_lindsey)
Posted at: August 19th, 2012 01:20 pm (UTC)

Yes, The Archers has been getting very much on my wick in recent months. It started with Nigel's demise and the ensuing over-done long-winded melodrama but the obviousness of the plot direction (I knew Vicky was pregnant weeks before she found out! - and that's just one of numerous examples) and the ...I'm struggling to find the words for it, but... basically, I've stopped listening to it, and no longer care what happens to the characters :-(

Posted by: Erastes (erastes)
Posted at: August 19th, 2012 01:26 pm (UTC)

And they went all coy about Down's syndrome too - the dialogue is getting really hard to take - and it relies too much on "One character trying to get an important point across while the other one is either doing something else and not paying attention or talking completely across them"


Posted by: Becky Black (becky_black)
Posted at: August 19th, 2012 02:04 pm (UTC)

It's very tricky to use a dramatic device like that on something that's on six days a weeks. The listeners are going to notice - they can't help it when it's used so often.

It was like with Lost. They has this thing they used to do with dialogue where someone would answer a question someone asked several scenes/hours ago, like they expected the other person to have been waiting for the answer all this time. Or ask a question about something someone had said a similar amount of time ago, without saying what they were asking about! I might not even have noticed if I'd just watch Lost once and week and saw each episode only once, but I usually got the DVDs and marathoned them, and watched them several times so that it really started to jump out at me. Just once I'd have liked someone (preferably Juliet) to say "What the hell are you talking about?"

Posted by: One Small Step.... (earth_magic)
Posted at: August 19th, 2012 03:53 pm (UTC)

You've summed up very much what I was going to say. I'm this close to giving up on the whole thing. Or at least writing a stroppy letter to the producers.

Posted by: Becky Black (becky_black)
Posted at: August 19th, 2012 01:24 pm (UTC)

I could understand Mike and Vicky being a bit coy in their language, but not Ian and Adam! I caught a bit of Ambridge Extra the other night and there was at least more of a hint of bisexuality on Harry than the conversations back in Ambridge would suggest. Again, Mike and Vicky I could see not getting that there isn't just binary gay or straight, but Ian and Adam could have shown a bit more of a clue that Harry might not fit into a neat box.

Posted by: Erastes (erastes)
Posted at: August 19th, 2012 01:31 pm (UTC)

And they did it with Pavel too!

"You mean... he's??"


the only time they said "gay" was in the phrase "famous gaydar." I mean - where are we, the 50's where we are having to code everything?

I havne't been following the Extra versions, who was he interested in? I was hoping Ifty might get a pass from someone!

Posted by: Becky Black (becky_black)
Posted at: August 19th, 2012 01:35 pm (UTC)

I only caught a bit of the Extra thing the other day - when playing with new digital radio. :D So haven't really been following it. I'd never even heard of him until then!

Of course I could understand Adam being a bit cautious about talking too much about Pavel and his sexuality. Couldn't give the reason when he was absolutely sure. ;-)

Posted by: Erastes (erastes)
Posted at: August 19th, 2012 01:36 pm (UTC)

I'm so annoyed - i missed ONE episode from that week, and that was the one i missed. grrrrr.

Posted by: kcwarwick (kcwarwick)
Posted at: August 19th, 2012 09:48 pm (UTC)

At one point last week, I started to think that every male in The Archers was going to turn out to be gay. It hasn't been the same since Walter Gabriel died, me old pal, me old beauty...

Posted by: Erastes (erastes)
Posted at: August 20th, 2012 07:36 am (UTC)

I'm ashamed to say that compared to you, I'm a jonnie come lately, John Archer was still in the show when I joined, although he was squished by a tractor after about a year when I started listening!

Posted by: sandra_lindsey (sandra_lindsey)
Posted at: August 20th, 2012 06:03 pm (UTC)

You're way ahead of me though - I started listening during Brian & Siobhan's affair!

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